Jorge Buxadé, Iván Vélez, José Javier Esparza, Juan Antonio Elipe have been in charge of discussing sovereignty, independence and identity.

Antonio Elipe has made reference to a technical question, “from the point of view of the structure it will depend on how we establish coexistence”. According to Elipe "the theory of constitutionalism is being supplemented by directing or applying postulates that come from the stratosphere, already outside of what is the hooking arch of constitutional law and with the norms that we Spaniards want to give ourselves and that we receive." 

In this sense, he has pointed out that “it is predetermined that the processes of globalization have direct consequences on how the old village is structured, the old nation state that is called into question by losing its identity. If this happens, we are facing a problem, since these consequences come from the imperative of public policies. The nation states have been revolutionizing, this type of change leads us to depend on others and therefore we end up in absolute disaster”. 

For its part, José Javier Esparza, has raised the antagonistic perspective. “On the path of building human societies, you first have a united group of people with common characteristics who become politically aware and form a nation, and from there think of a structure that is the state. What is lost in the process are not endearing concepts such as the nation, what is lost is the person's ability to make decisions about their environment, this is the big problem”, and he added that “this isIt is a natural process that societies can change, however to protect individual autonomy it has ended up leading to a political reality in which the individual has no decision-making capacity”.

"In the construction of mediocracy it is like in our construction, orders of power have been created in which one does not know who is in charge because they deliberately hide themselves." 


Regarding the term identity. Esparza has recalled the risks of the absolutist concept of identity, "globalism creates identities to create itself, you eliminate the previous ones and create new identities that can govern because they are not going to create resistance because they are false identities." 

Next, Iván Vélez spoke about the end of the conference in which he considers “identity the most controversial”. The identity is a kind of nebula of a subjective and prefabricated character, "it is supposed to channel the different parties, but with paleolithic ideas, although it was in the 19th and 20th centuries, when the signs of identity were forged." 

“Identity is not something that should be avoided, but to narrow it down I think that it should be opposed to the label political institution that embeds much more those components that are used ideologically more often. There are many types of globalization, Catholicism is an example of globalization. To the label of identity I would put that of political institutions, there is no universal one, that is why globalization is never reached even if you try”. 

Jorge Buxadé, for his part, explained that “my opinions are determined by several issues, including the place where I was born, Barcelona.  My whole childhood was a destructive discourse in schools and media about what my nation was, that is the first question that separatism asks what is a nation. My life changed when I decided not to ask myself what a nation was, what matters is how I can contribute to it”. 

Really, “everything depends on the idea you have of man, of being human. If you believe that the individual is a being that is fulfilled based on rights, you will believe that the more rights you have, the more you belong to a nation, a group of free and equal men. That we have many rights does not mean that we are a nation of free and equal”.

As for sovereignty, Buxadé has explained that "always It has been seen as the power of the state and I would like to say other things. I understood it the day I became a father. One is a father, they tell this guy they have to feed him, provide him with comprehensive training, love him, educate him until he dies. When you are a father you realize that being a father is not exercising rights, it is assuming a burden, duties. Sovereignty is that, not to exercise rights but for the people to impose duties, burdens and responsibilities. That is why we speak of energy sovereignty because it is the duty of any government. That allows us to change the whole vision of this, it is something positive, the Government is here to defend our sovereignty”. 

Finally, referring to globalism, Jorge Buxadé pointed out that "there is  difference from the globalist model UN model, European Union and the US model. The model of the nation state, of the modern nation, has two things that globalism does not have. One is democracy, that possibility of the community, the people govern themselves and decide their future, Spain decides, Poland decides, Hungary decides, but globalism does not allow this nor does it intend it, it is a model of elites, where there are some subjects who decide for you, that's why they use co-governance”. 

Solidarity, the nation gives you, that the pain of an Andalusian feels the same for a Catalan, more than the constitution are those affective ties, of affection, of a memory as a nation and globalism does not want that because it destroys everything it's".